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Deppbeauty
#1
19.01.2020 22:43
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Congratz for 100 very interessting maps !!!

Daumen hoch !!!!

soupduck
#2
20.01.2020 00:22
Beiträge: 530

Thank you DB! maybe I will beat you to 200.

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okapi
#3
22.01.2020 17:11
Beiträge: 3235

Not to win

Hi soupduck,

I really like your cards, also the challenges in these ... but this map is not to win in my eyes. No chance for a useful defense, and also no way for a fast attack (it needs to much time to install a proper production). My best time was 1:22 untill I lost.

Is there a special trick to it??? I can't beleave it Please help.

Kind regards
Okapi

soupduck
#4
22.01.2020 18:15
Beiträge: 530

Zitat von okapi:
Hi soupduck,

I really like your cards, also the challenges in these ... but this map is not to win in my eyes. No chance for a useful defense, and also no way for a fast attack (it needs to much time to install a proper production). My best time was 1:22 untill I lost.

Is there a special trick to it??? I can't beleave it Please help.

Kind regards
Okapi



Hi Okapi. Emmm, no special trick. I began mana production as soon as possible and increased builders to build fast. Then I set weapons and gold production first in the queue. A combination of castles/towers and settler residences helped to hold back the enemy. This is the only screenshot that I have.

https://www.siedler-maps.de/screenshots/screenshot-4737.htm

Good luck! I have a new map coming that you can not lose.

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okapi
#5
23.01.2020 13:44
Beiträge: 3235

Zitat von soupduck:
Hi Okapi. Emmm, no special trick. I began mana production as soon as possible and increased builders to build fast. Then I set weapons and gold production first in the queue. A combination of castles/towers and settler residences helped to hold back the enemy. This is the only screenshot that I have.

https://www.siedler-maps.de/screenshots/screenshot-4737.htm

Good luck! I have a new map coming that you can not lose.


Sorry soupduck,

but this map is NOT to win. I think, I'm not to slow to install a proper production fast enough, but afterwards starts a permanent defensive battle. And at the end you have no chance agains 5 very aggressiv enemies and dozens of Viking axe warriors. Also the ressources of coal are to less, and it's nearly impossible to conquer and hold eg. the area of the blue Romans for an alternative production.

Hence I ask all players around, if someone has won this map? And if yes, how it has worked.

Okapi

Geologe
#6
23.01.2020 18:51
Beiträge: 2623

Hi okapi,

hab es auch mehrmals versucht. Leider keine Chance. Habe es aufgegeben.

I also tried several times. Unfortunately no chance. I gave it up.

Geologe

Versiedelter Siedler
#7
23.01.2020 23:12
Beiträge: 360

Hi soupduck,

very interesting map! The beginning is very tricky, you have to be careful where you place your buildings and at first feed your miners with fish only (Had around 10 fishermen). My first aim was to get 100 lvl 3 archers which I had after 1h (only yellow attacked me) so i cleaned up the blue romans, concquered them with 30 swords and built a second settlement. Raising power, collecting 300 swords and then rushed the rest away (The 100 archers did the most kills between the mountains)
game over after 2h, thanks for this short but nice game

Greetings V.S.

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soupduck
#8
24.01.2020 01:18
Beiträge: 530

Zitat von okapi:


but this map is NOT to win. I think, I'm not to slow to install a proper production fast enough, but afterwards starts a permanent defensive battle. And at the end you have no chance agains 5 very aggressiv enemies and dozens of Viking axe warriors. Also the ressources of coal are to less, and it's nearly impossible to conquer and hold eg. the area of the blue Romans for an alternative production.

Hence I ask all players around, if someone has won this map? And if yes, how it has worked.

Okapi



I did not experience ax warriors. hmmm. However I have reworked the map and will post it. It is easier than this map. It has a snow moountain bottleneck. The enemies begin weaker but they are still quite fast in their production. You can also use a snow plow (priest) to weaken enemies.

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soupduck
#9
24.01.2020 01:21
Beiträge: 530

Zitat von Geologe:
Hi okapi,

hab es auch mehrmals versucht. Leider keine Chance. Habe es aufgegeben.

I also tried several times. Unfortunately no chance. I gave it up.

Geologe



Geologe cannot find a way to win a map? I thought that if there was anyone who would win a map it would be Geologe. I apologize to those who find it difficult.

As above I have reworked this map with easier circumstances. I hope that that is more to your liking Geologe.

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soupduck
#10
24.01.2020 01:28
Beiträge: 530

Zitat von Versiedelter Siedler:
Hi soupduck,

very interesting map! The beginning is very tricky, you have to be careful where you place your buildings and at first feed your miners with fish only (Had around 10 fishermen). My first aim was to get 100 lvl 3 archers which I had after 1h (only yellow attacked me) so i cleaned up the blue romans, concquered them with 30 swords and built a second settlement. Raising power, collecting 300 swords and then rushed the rest away (The 100 archers did the most kills between the mountains)
game over after 2h, thanks for this short but nice game

Greetings V.S.




Hi Versiedelter Siedler. Yes it is a bit tricky and building placement is crucial in my opinion. Short runs for settlers speeds up production. I had not thought to use multiple fisherman but this seems like a helpful idea since there are many well stocked rivers on the map. I used pioneers as well so as not to waste build time and materials to open territory...

I am glad that you enjoyed the map and thank you for commenting!

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Zweifler
Gast
#11
24.01.2020 08:46

short game ???

Zitat von Versiedelter Siedler:
Hi soupduck,

very interesting map! The beginning is very tricky, you have to be careful where you place your buildings and at first feed your miners with fish only (Had around 10 fishermen). My first aim was to get 100 lvl 3 archers which I had after 1h (only yellow attacked me) so i cleaned up the blue romans, concquered them with 30 swords and built a second settlement. Raising power, collecting 300 swords and then rushed the rest away (The 100 archers did the most kills between the mountains)
game over after 2h, thanks for this short but nice game

Greetings V.S.



Hmmm, wenn ich mir deinen Screenshot anschau (1:43) und erst ein Gegner erobert, kommt mir dein Game Over nach 2 Stunden schon recht komisch vor.

Fumator
#12
24.01.2020 18:11
Beiträge: 217

In NM I tried about ten times without any success, then switched to LM and found no problems at all.
What modus did you use?

Best wishes
Axel

Versiedelter Siedler
#13
24.01.2020 19:35
Beiträge: 360

@Zweifler

Die 300 Schwertis sind da durchgerutscht wie geschmiert, die Bogis haben zu dem Zeitpunkt schon lila und Gelb fast leer geräumt und die anderen hatten ja auch überwiegend LVL 1er und 2er

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okapi
#14
30.01.2020 07:32
Beiträge: 3235

Hi Versiedelter Sielder,

ich habe die Map jetzt mit deiner Idee der Fischereiversorgung versucht und komme auch so nach 50 Minuten auf höchstens 35 Bogis, die überrannt werden. Du hast bei den Screenshots angeboten, ein Save zu schicken. Das würde ich mir gerne ansehen, um zu wissen, wo ich auf der Map einen grundsätzlichen Fehler gemacht habe. Will ja nach 20 Jahren Siedler spielen nicht dumm sterben. Übrigens kamen bei mir nach der VZ immer alle Gegner angedackelt
Ich schicke dir meine Mail per PN.

LG
Okapi

okapi
#15
04.02.2020 09:36
Beiträge: 3235

Hi Versiedelter Siedler,

ich habe mit deinen Ratschlägen die Map noch mehrmals im NM probiert, aber leider erfolglos. Ich hatte zwar nach gut 45 Minuten 200 Siedler, 4 Forstbetriebe, 2 Steinmetze, 7 Fischer, 6 Goldschmelzen, 2 Eisenschmelzen, 3 Waffenschmieden, 1 Werkzeugschmiede und alles an Minen was möglich war, aber ...

... die Fischer genügen bei mir nicht, die Kohleminen ausreichend zu versorgen, auch wenn ich diesen 80 Prozent Fisch zuordne. Als ich einmal zusätzlich 2 Farmen mit Mühle und 2 Bäckerein baute, gab es zwar Kohle, aber dann wurden die Goldschmelzen nicht mit Kohle beliefert, trotz passender Einstellung (40 Gold/60 Eisen).

So konnten natürlich nie rechtzeitig ausreichend Solis produziert werden. Irgendwie läuft hier auch bei der KI nicht alles rund. Schade, hätte die Map gerne im NM gewonnen.

LG
Okapi

okapi
#16
04.02.2020 14:02
Beiträge: 3235

The map IS to win

Hi soupduck,

I have to withdraw my statement from the beginning. A last with help from Versiedelter Siedler, who sent me some screenshots, I could optimize my start sequence. Also I could convince the KI to work in the right way.

The key to the victory was (in addition to a fast building process) a strong fortess system which prevented the KI from total attacking (as we know). So only single enemies attacked, and failed because of the strong defense.

So I can now announce my victory . This map is really a challenge, also for supposed good players. Thank you for this lesson.

Okapi

soupduck
#17
04.02.2020 19:08
Beiträge: 530

Zitat von okapi:
Hi soupduck,

I have to withdraw my statement from the beginning. A last with help from Versiedelter Siedler, who sent me some screenshots, I could optimize my start sequence. Also I could convince the KI to work in the right way.

The key to the victory was (in addition to a fast building process) a strong fortess system which prevented the KI from total attacking (as we know). So only single enemies attacked, and failed because of the strong defense.

So I can now announce my victory . This map is really a challenge, also for supposed good players. Thank you for this lesson.

Okapi




I am glad you found victory Okapi. This deserves some Bourbon!

In the beginning of my map making many years ago, I made maps too easy.(so they told me) It appears that, though I think a map is still easy, it is in fact more challenging for others than I expect. It is of course easier for the mapper because he knows the setup and some tricks. Settlers IV is awesome!

Cheers Okapi!

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